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[*Edit* - I re-ordered the wording in this comment because I went from attacking seed oils to inexplicably attacking fish oil. So take the likes with a grain of salt. Sea salt, mind you, to get all the nutrients.]

I'm down with the lime peels which also have quercetin, a natural antihistamine. I'd stay away from the seed oils (perilla seed oil). I'm not a zealot, but we're inundated with industrial oils. Also Omega 3 and Omega 6 are PUFAs. which are easily oxidized and cause cellular damage. So also avoid fatty fish like salmon. Stay with warm climate animal fats and natural saturated (coconut) and monounsaturated (olive and avocado) fats. Stick it to the man. And "the man" is industrial food.

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I get liquid fish oil so it's more apparent if it's oxidized or not. I think that's a good strategy but I could be wrong.

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Now more than ever I understand that my knowledge is imperfect. I'm reluctant to push my views on others, but if I've learned a few things, I can try to provide some context.

After eating Keto for 23 years, I've come to reassess what the most significant health risks are. Keto definitely served me well in terms of avoiding heart disease risk despite a family history. But over time, my metabolism slowed, and my lab values started to trouble me (i.e. signs of insulin resistance). I'm essentially where Paul Saladino is now (carnivore who also eats ripe fruit, honey and natural sugar like maple sugar). That leads me to the bioenergetic views of people like the late Ray Peat. Here's Jay Feldman on Omega 3s and Omega 6s: https://www.jayfeldmanwellness.com/omega-3s-are-not-the-healthy-fats/

I've thrown away the fish oil supplements. It might not be harmful (if it doesn't smell funny), but I don't think it does the "good" that some of the studies suggest--too many confounders.

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This reminds me that as a child my parents gave us kids the lemon peel out of their martinis every so often. They tasted good that way 😂 another thing not to tell CPS.

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The main problem nowadays is that with the amount of chemicals they spray into Fruits it might do more harm than good...

If one has a piece of Land from which to extract Fruit without directly applied chemicals one is in luck.

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I was thinking the same thing-just buy organic limes.

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If you know the actual origin of those "organic limes" that's alright... If not it's just another risky gamble.

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Yes exactly, "organic" doesn't necessarily mean what you think it does today. Just ask your friendly maniacal billionaire like Bill Gates.

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Yes, working on the food safety side of the food industry, I get to read a lot of stuff on fruit suppliers and their organic inspection reports, I get some insight that’s not generally available to anyone. Growing up in CA, my mom grew her own citrus. I miss that.

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I eat citrus peels especially if I have bit of sore throat which it seems to clear up right away. When I was a girl I used to pick fresh lemons and limes from my aunt's tree in Solana Beach, add some salt nd eat them whole. I also ground them into zest. It's amazing the things we throw away are usually the best parts!

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simpler times, right?

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I freeze dry them and then grind to a powder.

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Perfect, I have freeze drier. Thanks for the tip!

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Citrus peel is widely used in traditional Chinese medicine. It makes for a good bitters too...

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Of course. That was really funny! Thank you the perfect start for the day with a good chuckle.

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Hmmm, very interesting. Warrants further research on my part and finding edible Delimonine. I am not going to test my gag reflex by eating rinds like you did...

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I would not recommend eating the rinds raw unless you have a fetish for suffering

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That is fascinating, I'll give it a whirl. I shall also revert back to leaving the lime wedge inside the occasional quadruple vodka + soda glass.

Cheers Ben.

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cheers. hope all is well in the LOS

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It's still the LOM (land of masks) in Bangkok, aside from the NPC community doing what they do, all is well!

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Thank you, Ben. Synergy FTW!

As I'm now on the wrong side of 60, wifey has been making me smoothies daily for the past four months using whole lemons & limes (and with rasberries, blueberries, pineapple, pineapple juice, and a little Stevia) as the lemon & lime peels & pulp are also being touted as beneficial in preventing BPH (Benign Prostatic Hyperplasia) and possibly even shrinking the prostate as per the Doctor, Eric Berg, in this 7 1/2-minute video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIbhXK2UJ6w

Cheers, Good Health, and Bottoms Up (it can be quite sour)!

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Do we know the difference between the components of and potential benefits of the zest, versus the rind?

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I don't know the answer to that question.

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Lime pickle, nom, nom.

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If someone boards a bus and announces for no apparent reason that they are not a cannibal, everyone on the bus will immediately think, geez, I bet that guy is a cannibal. And that brings me to Ben's claim of possessing opposable thumbs...

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I have opposable thumbs, I swear! and no sloping forehead

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Ahh! And a non-sloping forehead, too, no less. Next we'll be hearing of hairless knuckles and pointed noses, I presume. Frankly, it's clear, to me anyway, our host is a monkey.

But he sure can write. As a former English teacher in China, I had many such simian colleagues.

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Good stuff, Ben - thanks.

But, how did our ancestors know this? Without all of the tech stuff we have?

Thanks anyway.

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You could dehydrate them then pulse to a powder and cook with them or add to tea?

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Bet the oils like limonene would evaporate and disappear with dehydration, though.

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