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Guttermouth's avatar

A not-sarcastic question:

Where is the sympathy line drawn between "poor innocent people that were coerced" and "bad guy hypocrites?"

Benjamin Bartee's avatar

It's totally 100% subjective is the true and unsatisfying answer

Guttermouth's avatar

Oh, I basically know. I'm mostly asking the question to be provocative, for myself as much as anyone else.

Because I frequently find myself wrestling with myself over "people who allow themselves to be coerced had weak character or clearly valued their existing comfort over the thing they surrendered to and therefore can't claim victimhood" and "STFU like you're a person of unassailable character," but then the first one goes, "yeah, but if I give in to something that allegedly goes against my principles at least I have the integrity to say it was because I was fearful or weak-willed or I wasn't honest with myself about what my principles were and my salary DOES matter more to me than my body and therefore I'm not a victim."

I didn't do enough drugs when I was younger so this is how my mind has learned to amuse itself.

Guttermouth's avatar

Celebrating the fall of my enemies is really one of the only pleasures I have left.

And seeing that they've always prayed and cheered for mine, it seems only fair.

Dave's avatar

SHAUDENFREUDE FTW

Thiago's avatar

I was actually writing somewhere else that I truly enjoy laughing at all these people that really believe governments: Every time I hear about another politician forbidding people in Europe to turn on their lights or heater; every time a jabbed person gets exactly what everyone with an IQ above 60 told them that could happen; every time an election is stolen... All too funny.

With this oldie, for example, I literally lose the ability to even: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSZMtSPX3iE LMAO

Thiago's avatar

BTW, I don't know who is an enforcer/supporter of covid/green/woke/etc tyranny and who is a victim.

In my laugh, I only imagine the believers (and especially the supporters/enforcers). And this obviously *includes* the "nice" believers that wanted to mandate things because they are such angels on earth.

But I obviously feel sorry for the ones that were forced by these pieces of shit to do something that they did not want.

Nicholas Creed's avatar

They are all so beholden to right-think and not getting dropped by sponsors, networks, and contracts. The celebs will only bend to the will of the people when it becomes too painful, physiologically, psychologically, emotionally, and spiritually - to not change.

Lex Weiser's avatar

The few public figures who had the courage to stand against the tide should definitely feel some vindication. Unfortunately, the entertainment industry is still mandating these poisonous jabs. I feel bad for the c-list actors and production crews who were/are coerced to accept the injections and then hope for the best.

Benjamin Bartee's avatar

Yeah, that's a good point about struggling actors/singers/artists. What I was talking about here are the A-listers with the resources and audience to have truly made a stand and made a difference.

Dave's avatar

Most A-listers are kept under control by a type of "MK-Ultra Lite". Kanye is a good example of this, his handler has publicly threatened him with "medical" incarceration and loss of his children for going off-script. Plenty of other examples here: https://vigilantcitizen.com/?s=mkultra

Lex Weiser's avatar

That is true. There are only a handful of celebrities, like Woody Harrelson and Jim Carrey, who really go off the reservation. Check out Woody's documentary movie, "Ethos." It's completely unlike anything you'd expect a Hollywood puppet to produce.

Dave's avatar

I will, thanks.

Carrey, OTOH... So sad. I've really enjoyed his performances over the years.

Lex Weiser's avatar

Oh yes, you were very clear about that. I was just thinking about the underclass that gets forgotten about.