What about volcanoes.... Are you kidding me? Here is a great article https://principia-scientific.com/a-volcano-eruption-can-emit-more-co2-than-all-humanity-why-worry/ Just that title says it all. We have to deluge these idiotic-climate-change-morons with science like this article and if millions of people sent it in, maybe someone would read it. Maybe. Oh, wait a minute... This has nothing to do with actual science and logic. Really its about hijacking our sovereignty so that the elite can steal everything we own without consequence.
Home Gardening has been in the crosshairs for a long time. In urban areas, there are numerous examples of people having their gardens destroyed because they "violate zoning laws". Years and years ago, I recall an Amish Farmer actually being jailed because he refused to hook up to a sewer system but wanted to keep his outhouse.
It is easy to see the common denominator here. For many years, the political establishment has been against sustainability and the local "subsistence farmer" who was Public Enemy #1 for years at the UN "sustainable development" agency. (The name- what a laugh!)
It does not matter to these people that composting and local commerce saves scads of carbon dioxide by eliminating the need for heavy trucks and ships to transport tons of stuff over immense distances. But obviously that is not the goal- it never was.
The goal is reducing people to indentured servants- if not slaves.
A ludicrous, but patently obvious intentional omission in the moronic "study" above about "home gardening" and, indeed, in most of "climate science", is the purposeful ignoring of the amount of CO2 that the ALL plants consume during growth.
These climate Nazis conveniently and willfully ignore the Calvin Cycle, or "Dark Reaction", in which ALL plants "fix" carbon from CO2 into glucose to build their own nutrients. There aren't many sources for the building blocks of proteins (amino acids) just laying around in soil.
That's how plants grow - they make energy (ATP) during photosynthesis, and expend it to make glucose during the "dark reaction".
This is high school biology stuff.
Anyone EVER see this mentioned by the Krazy Klimate Komintern? DIdn't think so.
Drop the CO2 levels in the environment just a little, and plant growth will slow. Lower it too much, and plant death will occur.
Another fact that is never mentioned by the climate fascisti is that the naturaol processes of plants have a valuable byproduct...oxygen.
... I have several degrees. Tops in my class, 13 successive courses in calculus, 18 in statistics, aced every unit I took in the hard sciences, earth science, bio-science, climatology, meteorology. I have very good news for you! Planet Earth's been around a good long while, I'll have you know. The carbon, hydro-logic, nitrogen cycles are doing just fine, no cause for concern. Airplanes generally continue to fly, through the atmosphere, no worries. John Kerry will live long enough to squander his wife's catsup fortune, we could care less. Demand for fossil petroleum will remain relatively constant, not a whole heck of a lot anyone can do about it, and nitwits crapped out on their Pete Buttigeig specials will have no choice but begrudgingly concede, they don't know beans about automotive engineering, that they were suckered out of their money, left stranded high 'n dry, suffering at the abyss of the EV depreciation curve, no value sufficient for a decent trade-in, for a gasoline powered Toyota. The government in Washington DC will inevitably crash 'n burn, file for bankruptcy, the United States of America will bisect, it will be no one's fault, no one will care. Bejing-Biden, the Obamas, the Bushies and the Clintons will laugh it up living the high life off the fat of the land, forever immune from prosecution for civil rights violations, racketeering, money laundering, bribery, murder, war crimes, extortion, blackmail, treason, and no one cares. Greta Thunburg will live long enough achieve orgasm, get herself pregnant, fat, and lazy, learn to cook, and she'll likely someday find something meaningful to care about. Life's a great big bowl of cherries, I'll have you know. Planet Earth's going to be just fine - asj.
Sometimes I think the main purpose of all of this nonsense is to engender homicidal anger in the rest of us – at which point they will have a genuine excuse to close us down..
Yes, of course, farming and food are destroying us. But, we’ll be destroyed even quicker without farming and food.
Btw, I’m a long term supporter of organics and the protection of our soil and water. Needless to say, the same mega-organisations that wish to ‘save us’ are the ones very largely responsible for despoiling our soil, water and food.
Always follow the money, (brushing aside the third-raters who infest society and are employed as a barrier between us and those executives responsible for exploitative and harmful products and services).
Reviewing the article it is clear that sunk-energy costs of urban farming, like pavers, plastics and raised-beds raise the carbon-footprint.
Compost lowers it. Using a garden continuously for years lowers it, avoiding chemicals lowers it. I mow the grass, but not the garden. I don't have to transport the veggies I grow any further than I can walk in 20 seconds. I don't have much "waste", because I harvest what is ripe/ripening in coordination with our usage, and when there is a lot, I give it away as gifts.
Any assumptions can be embedded into an analysis to make it end up wherever you want.
I use compost, not chemicals, and drip-watering on both of my vegetable gardens, which I tend by hand.
I don't think any assumptions can be introduced to make that bad, unless all the driving I do in my life is "included", but not driving to the store for groceries.
It is established that 90% of the energy-calories put into growing and transporting vegetables to market are "lost"; not reflected as food calories. Food calories come from sunlight, of course.
It was impossible for farming to have this problem 200 years ago.
John Kerry should have to be audited for the amount of carbon he emits each year. I guarantee you it is much more than we can possibly imagine. After all, we are peasants and must make sacrifices for important people like John Kerry. This guy is an insufferable hypocrite and so is Al Gore. Together they probably emit as much carbon as a thousand peasants do in a calendar year.
You're probably right, Ben. I was just throwing a hypothetical number out there. I wish I knew the actual equivalent. These guys are beyond insufferable.
As is often the case in academic studies of this nature (and then regurgitated via uncritical mass media), there exists carbon tunnel vision where the only variable of 'interest' is the carbon emission one. There are, of course, many other variables (both measurable and not) that must be considered if we are concerned about the ecological impact of how we produce and distribute our food.
You point out some very important ones, especially the soil degradation that occurs via modern industrial agriculture. Throw on top of this the impact of using hydrocarbon-based pesticides, herbicides, fertilisers, and equipment, as well as the dependency upon other finite resources with little concern to long-term sustainability--to say little about supply chain dependencies for all of this--and our modern food production practices should be seen as pursuing the very opposite of a wise use of our planet to help sustain us.
Relocalising everything possible, rather than centralising it, should be our first and foremost behaviour as the world becomes increasingly complex and fragile. Of course this will be vociferously challenged by a ruling class driven by the control/expansion of wealth-generating/-extracting systems that provide their revenue streams. Creating dependency of the masses is a central tenet of sustaining their power/privilege. It is never about benefiting humanity--that's just the narrative spin.
Accurate insightful assessment of the cesspool that is the WEF and their entire spewed agenda. So unfortunate we can not bottle it and give it to the worlds farmers for extra rich fertilizer.
What about volcanoes.... Are you kidding me? Here is a great article https://principia-scientific.com/a-volcano-eruption-can-emit-more-co2-than-all-humanity-why-worry/ Just that title says it all. We have to deluge these idiotic-climate-change-morons with science like this article and if millions of people sent it in, maybe someone would read it. Maybe. Oh, wait a minute... This has nothing to do with actual science and logic. Really its about hijacking our sovereignty so that the elite can steal everything we own without consequence.
Home Gardening has been in the crosshairs for a long time. In urban areas, there are numerous examples of people having their gardens destroyed because they "violate zoning laws". Years and years ago, I recall an Amish Farmer actually being jailed because he refused to hook up to a sewer system but wanted to keep his outhouse.
It is easy to see the common denominator here. For many years, the political establishment has been against sustainability and the local "subsistence farmer" who was Public Enemy #1 for years at the UN "sustainable development" agency. (The name- what a laugh!)
It does not matter to these people that composting and local commerce saves scads of carbon dioxide by eliminating the need for heavy trucks and ships to transport tons of stuff over immense distances. But obviously that is not the goal- it never was.
The goal is reducing people to indentured servants- if not slaves.
A ludicrous, but patently obvious intentional omission in the moronic "study" above about "home gardening" and, indeed, in most of "climate science", is the purposeful ignoring of the amount of CO2 that the ALL plants consume during growth.
These climate Nazis conveniently and willfully ignore the Calvin Cycle, or "Dark Reaction", in which ALL plants "fix" carbon from CO2 into glucose to build their own nutrients. There aren't many sources for the building blocks of proteins (amino acids) just laying around in soil.
That's how plants grow - they make energy (ATP) during photosynthesis, and expend it to make glucose during the "dark reaction".
This is high school biology stuff.
Anyone EVER see this mentioned by the Krazy Klimate Komintern? DIdn't think so.
Drop the CO2 levels in the environment just a little, and plant growth will slow. Lower it too much, and plant death will occur.
Another fact that is never mentioned by the climate fascisti is that the naturaol processes of plants have a valuable byproduct...oxygen.
Yes, the oxygen most everything on Earth needs.
... I have several degrees. Tops in my class, 13 successive courses in calculus, 18 in statistics, aced every unit I took in the hard sciences, earth science, bio-science, climatology, meteorology. I have very good news for you! Planet Earth's been around a good long while, I'll have you know. The carbon, hydro-logic, nitrogen cycles are doing just fine, no cause for concern. Airplanes generally continue to fly, through the atmosphere, no worries. John Kerry will live long enough to squander his wife's catsup fortune, we could care less. Demand for fossil petroleum will remain relatively constant, not a whole heck of a lot anyone can do about it, and nitwits crapped out on their Pete Buttigeig specials will have no choice but begrudgingly concede, they don't know beans about automotive engineering, that they were suckered out of their money, left stranded high 'n dry, suffering at the abyss of the EV depreciation curve, no value sufficient for a decent trade-in, for a gasoline powered Toyota. The government in Washington DC will inevitably crash 'n burn, file for bankruptcy, the United States of America will bisect, it will be no one's fault, no one will care. Bejing-Biden, the Obamas, the Bushies and the Clintons will laugh it up living the high life off the fat of the land, forever immune from prosecution for civil rights violations, racketeering, money laundering, bribery, murder, war crimes, extortion, blackmail, treason, and no one cares. Greta Thunburg will live long enough achieve orgasm, get herself pregnant, fat, and lazy, learn to cook, and she'll likely someday find something meaningful to care about. Life's a great big bowl of cherries, I'll have you know. Planet Earth's going to be just fine - asj.
Sometimes I think the main purpose of all of this nonsense is to engender homicidal anger in the rest of us – at which point they will have a genuine excuse to close us down..
Yes, of course, farming and food are destroying us. But, we’ll be destroyed even quicker without farming and food.
Btw, I’m a long term supporter of organics and the protection of our soil and water. Needless to say, the same mega-organisations that wish to ‘save us’ are the ones very largely responsible for despoiling our soil, water and food.
Always follow the money, (brushing aside the third-raters who infest society and are employed as a barrier between us and those executives responsible for exploitative and harmful products and services).
Reviewing the article it is clear that sunk-energy costs of urban farming, like pavers, plastics and raised-beds raise the carbon-footprint.
Compost lowers it. Using a garden continuously for years lowers it, avoiding chemicals lowers it. I mow the grass, but not the garden. I don't have to transport the veggies I grow any further than I can walk in 20 seconds. I don't have much "waste", because I harvest what is ripe/ripening in coordination with our usage, and when there is a lot, I give it away as gifts.
Any assumptions can be embedded into an analysis to make it end up wherever you want.
I use compost, not chemicals, and drip-watering on both of my vegetable gardens, which I tend by hand.
I don't think any assumptions can be introduced to make that bad, unless all the driving I do in my life is "included", but not driving to the store for groceries.
It is established that 90% of the energy-calories put into growing and transporting vegetables to market are "lost"; not reflected as food calories. Food calories come from sunlight, of course.
It was impossible for farming to have this problem 200 years ago.
John Kerry should have to be audited for the amount of carbon he emits each year. I guarantee you it is much more than we can possibly imagine. After all, we are peasants and must make sacrifices for important people like John Kerry. This guy is an insufferable hypocrite and so is Al Gore. Together they probably emit as much carbon as a thousand peasants do in a calendar year.
i'd wager it's much more than the equivalent of a thousand peasants' output
You're probably right, Ben. I was just throwing a hypothetical number out there. I wish I knew the actual equivalent. These guys are beyond insufferable.
The crazy thing is that CO2 goes up, that helps plants to grow and what happens? More oxygen.... weird.
Learned that in grade school.
One of those obvious things that the populous(lemmings) is unaware of now.
As is often the case in academic studies of this nature (and then regurgitated via uncritical mass media), there exists carbon tunnel vision where the only variable of 'interest' is the carbon emission one. There are, of course, many other variables (both measurable and not) that must be considered if we are concerned about the ecological impact of how we produce and distribute our food.
You point out some very important ones, especially the soil degradation that occurs via modern industrial agriculture. Throw on top of this the impact of using hydrocarbon-based pesticides, herbicides, fertilisers, and equipment, as well as the dependency upon other finite resources with little concern to long-term sustainability--to say little about supply chain dependencies for all of this--and our modern food production practices should be seen as pursuing the very opposite of a wise use of our planet to help sustain us.
Relocalising everything possible, rather than centralising it, should be our first and foremost behaviour as the world becomes increasingly complex and fragile. Of course this will be vociferously challenged by a ruling class driven by the control/expansion of wealth-generating/-extracting systems that provide their revenue streams. Creating dependency of the masses is a central tenet of sustaining their power/privilege. It is never about benefiting humanity--that's just the narrative spin.
Excellent summary bringing pesky reality to the fore!
Accurate insightful assessment of the cesspool that is the WEF and their entire spewed agenda. So unfortunate we can not bottle it and give it to the worlds farmers for extra rich fertilizer.
The American satirist, JP Sears, expresses my thoughts better than I can
https://youtube.com/shorts/XXB7NKveufg?si=v-aPGaW3MUqeEWXx